WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:01.040 Honestly, 00:00:01.840 --> 00:00:04.640 it's there are more no's than yes's. But 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:18.935 the no's, every no creates an opportunity for a yes. I realized a long time ago that if I say yes to something out of guilt, because maybe they've asked four times before and I haven't been able to do it, or yes out of fear of missing out, it's an opportunity. 00:00:19.415 --> 00:00:36.230 Every time I said yes for those reasons, I regretted it. Because I'd get to that day and my kid has a soccer game. Yeah. I'd get to that day and goodness gracious, I could have taken a vacation that week with my husband, but now there's something planted in the middle of the week that I didn't say yes to for pure reasons. Mhmm. 00:00:36.630 --> 00:00:42.675 So that happens enough to you and you have that feeling of remorse that you didn't an honest genuine yes, 00:00:43.075 --> 00:00:47.635 then it it starts to not be worth it anymore. Yeah. That if I'm too insecure 00:00:48.595 --> 00:01:00.890 to to open up that gap, that I'm actually standing in the way of somebody else who might be coming up behind me and just needs a place to be. But I'm so insecure that I keep showing up in the spaces that are now meant for them. Wow. 00:01:00.970 --> 00:01:04.970 Wow. Wow. I kinda keep that in my mind that, man, when I was 20, 00:01:04.970 --> 00:01:14.545 there were some people in their fifties that started to have different priorities maybe in that season because of grandkids coming along. They were secure enough to say their nose that somebody sat there and thought, 00:01:14.865 --> 00:01:20.785 well, you know what? There's this little girl named Priscilla. She's 27. Let's just give her a chance. My 00:01:20.785 --> 00:01:22.945 goodness. That's one of the best answers we've got on the show. 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:36.960 Alright. Welcome back to the show, everybody. So I gotta tell you, there's a buzz around the arena that we're doing this in right now that this lady's on our show. 00:01:37.945 --> 00:01:47.465 I'm speaking at an event that she's also speaking at today, and they've informed me that she is by far the biggest draw of all the speakers. Like, 85 times the draw that I am, 00:01:47.785 --> 00:02:03.110 and there's a reason for it. She's also the most incredible speaker you ever see ever in your life. She's incredible. I've watched her. She's just she's unreal, but she's not just a speaker. She's an author. She's a mother. She's got going beyond ministries. She's you probably know her from the war room. She's 00:02:03.875 --> 00:02:06.435 she's just super famous. What 00:02:07.715 --> 00:02:26.950 is happening right now? It's awesome. And she's, uh, she's one of the people that's been on my list for years to get a chance to interview, and I've met her recently. And she's so nice in person and so humble. You know when you have somebody that you all admire like you do this woman? She's even better in person, and I think you're gonna enjoy the time with her today. Priscilla Shire, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you so much. 00:02:27.910 --> 00:02:28.550 True. 00:02:29.190 --> 00:02:37.815 Wait till this crowd hears you. Okay. Let's start in the very beginning. Okay. What's it like to be you? And I'm in it from this way. Let me tell you the way that I mean it. You're busy. 00:02:38.535 --> 00:03:00.760 And so people listening to this may not relate to being in movies or writing books or having ministry work or all that stuff, but they do relate to being busy. Yeah. So you're a mother. Mhmm. You're a wife. You've got all these different business ventures that you do, yet you show up with really present energy every time that I've met you and I'm with you including today. I'm wondering how you do that, if you have any strategies you use or anything like that you'd share with busy people. 00:03:01.435 --> 00:03:08.955 Well, who's not busy? You know what I mean? We kinda live in a culture that creates a a vortex of busyness Right. That if you're not intentional, 00:03:09.435 --> 00:03:22.200 it will consume you. Mhmm. So it's it's something I'm not perfect at for sure, where it's kinda like we're growing and ebbing and flowing and maturing in this our whole lives. But, man, I've had to learn how to just say good solid no's. Mhmm. And, I mean, 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:23.480 honestly, 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.000 it's there are more no's than yeses. But 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:41.375 the no's, every no creates an opportunity for a yes. I realized a long time ago that if I say yes to something out of guilt, because maybe they've asked four times before and I haven't been able to do it, or yes out of fear of missing out, it's an opportunity. 00:03:41.695 --> 00:04:05.075 Every time I said yes for those reasons, I regretted it. It because I'd get to that day, and my kid has a soccer game. Yeah. I'd get to that day, and goodness gracious, I could have taken a vacation that week with my husband, but now there's something planted in the middle of the week that I didn't say yes to for pure reasons. Mhmm. Um, so that happens enough to you, and you have that feeling of remorse that you didn't say an honest, genuine yes, 00:04:05.475 --> 00:04:10.675 then it it starts to not be worth it anymore. Yeah. So I appear far more busy than I am. 00:04:11.420 --> 00:04:22.700 I appear far more busy than I am because from the outside looking in, it looks like I'm everywhere doing everything, and I'm really not. Wow. I'm home most of the month. If I'm gone twice a month because I've said yes to those two things, 00:04:23.585 --> 00:04:32.065 then that's gonna be two twenty four to forty eight hour periods that I'm away. Other than that, I'm at home. Really good. I wish I'd have asked you that about fourteen years ago. 00:04:32.465 --> 00:04:49.480 Me too. Because I'm just I'm not good at that. I you you know why? And I I wanna ask you this. I think this is why people say yes. Well, I think there's a lot reasons. One is people pleasing or whatever. Of course. But, also, the fear of losing momentum. Of course. Do you ever have that fear? I mean, you're you're I was I wasn't joking in the beginning. I was being serious. I said it lighthearted. Yeah. You've 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.240 built this massive following and notoriety and, frankly, influence. 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.855 And I wonder if you worry 00:04:56.175 --> 00:05:23.495 ever That's a good question. That I've asked other people on the show. I had Sebastian Maniscalco, the comedian. I said, do you worry you're gonna lose it? And because he said, I have a hard time saying no. And he said, yes. Mhmm. I do. And I've asked a lot of people that, and they say they worry that. I wonder that that doesn't impact you. I will say that it occurs to me that there's always the possibility there that if you're not saying all the yeses and you're not doing all the things, there is a there is there is a a cost to that. There is a loss to that momentum. I don't know that it worries me. Yeah. 00:05:24.535 --> 00:05:25.495 I I 00:05:25.735 --> 00:05:34.900 am grateful for the reality. And, again, this is something that that I I don't wanna sound like I'm a master at it. No. It's something that I have to kind of regulate constantly because 00:05:34.900 --> 00:05:41.220 you're watching other people that look like their their things growing faster Yeah. Or or more exponentially. 00:05:41.860 --> 00:05:45.555 I I look forward, though, to the the fact that when I have said no 00:05:45.875 --> 00:05:54.675 to something for whatever those reasons are, I have actually opened up a window of opportunity for somebody coming up behind me that if I'm too insecure 00:05:55.475 --> 00:06:07.800 to to open up that gap, that I'm actually standing in the way of somebody else who might be coming up behind me and just needs a place to be. But I'm so insecure that I keep showing up in the spaces that are now meant for them. Wow. 00:06:07.960 --> 00:06:21.455 Wow. Wow. I kinda keep that in my mind that, man, when I was 20, there were some people in their fifties that started to have different priorities maybe in that season because of grandkids coming along. They were secure enough to say their nose that somebody sat there and thought, 00:06:21.855 --> 00:06:26.175 well, you know what? There's this little girl named Priscilla. She's 27. Let's just give her a chance. 00:06:27.380 --> 00:06:35.940 There had to be a gap and a space for that. So I'm at least aware of that. I can't say that it worries me. I'm aware of the loss of momentum. Sometimes that just comes with age. 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:48.175 Yeah. The the relevancy to a certain context might not be the same when you're in the age or space or season that you're in. So I'm aware that that could happen for a number of reasons, but it doesn't worry me. I'm trusting God with this season 00:06:48.335 --> 00:06:57.070 just like I did with the last one, and I'm just expecting that he's gonna honor me as I seek to keep honoring him. Gosh. That was so good. You 00:06:57.310 --> 00:06:58.990 hear that a lot from believers. 00:06:59.390 --> 00:07:02.190 I'm just gonna trust in God. Yeah. And, 00:07:02.510 --> 00:07:05.790 obviously, I think most people know your background, your father. 00:07:06.110 --> 00:07:14.495 Yeah. He's a good dad. Good dad. And and A good mom and good dad. And and led a lot of people to Jesus as well. Yeah. Right? And 00:07:15.295 --> 00:07:21.855 I I've never asked anybody this before because I say it too, and I've become much my effect my word for this year is surrender. 00:07:21.935 --> 00:07:29.670 It's a good word. Yeah. Just It's a hard word. It is a hard word. Right? And so I'm just wondering. It's a hard question, but you're so you've such an ability. 00:07:29.670 --> 00:07:47.215 There are bright people. Right? And then a rarer ability is to have what I consider high IQ or EQ, which I think you have, and then the ability to articulate a thought. You just I'm gonna ask you about that later. But what does that look like, like relying on God? Because everybody says that because someone's driving in their car. They're running on the treadmill right now. They have a problem, 00:07:47.695 --> 00:07:58.440 and they're they're running they're ruminating it over and over in their mind thinking, if I just keep thinking about this again, I'm gonna find a different answer. Right? That's what we think. I know I do it. What does it look like? Like, day to day, 00:07:58.840 --> 00:08:04.520 I'm gonna trust God in this season or rely on God. What's that like? Hard. That's what it's like. 00:08:04.840 --> 00:08:07.720 But I will say it is easier I I have to 00:08:08.845 --> 00:08:20.845 just kind of reconcile the fact that it is easier for some personality types than it is for others. Wow. I'm a easygoing personality type. There are some people, friends and family members that I have, we can have the same conversation. 00:08:21.085 --> 00:08:27.290 And the answer will be completely different because they're more type a, kind of a perfectionist by nature. 00:08:27.690 --> 00:08:36.895 I'm more of a relaxed personality. Really? So yeah. So I would say that it probably is easier for me to come to that, but we're all human and want some 00:08:37.135 --> 00:08:39.535 modicum of control or management 00:08:39.935 --> 00:08:45.695 of our family life or our our business life or we we'd love to have it packaged a little bit more clearly. 00:08:45.935 --> 00:08:48.335 And I think that as time has gone on, 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:52.230 the main thing that has helped me to relax and need 00:08:52.390 --> 00:08:56.150 to trust god more fully is having kids. It's 00:08:56.150 --> 00:08:58.790 this constant reality that I've gotta let go. 00:08:59.510 --> 00:09:02.310 That to the extent that I try to manage and control 00:09:03.595 --> 00:09:11.755 is the extent to which I'm gonna experience more and more stress and anxiety and not be able to actually enjoy them. Wow. So it's something that being a mom 00:09:12.075 --> 00:09:14.955 has begun to work even more in me. Let 00:09:15.115 --> 00:09:19.790 go. 20 years old, 21 years old, 22 years old. Let go. Coach, 00:09:20.030 --> 00:09:21.950 offer advice, but release. 00:09:22.110 --> 00:09:26.270 Now I can enjoy you because I'm not trying to control you. That 00:09:26.270 --> 00:09:27.150 principle 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:36.595 has been true with other areas of my life. Okay, Lord. I'm struggling because I'd love to be able to manage this thing and control this thing. I'm just gonna do my part, be prepared, 00:09:36.835 --> 00:09:44.760 um, make sure that I'm honing the craft, the guilt the skill, the opportunity you've given me. I'm gonna do my part. But if I keep trying to do your part 00:09:45.160 --> 00:09:52.520 Wow. Then I'm not gonna enjoy this ride of life Mhmm. Because I'm gonna be too busy trying to to manage it and step into that god margin. 00:09:52.920 --> 00:10:27.835 So over time and again, I'm talking about this like I'm an expert in it, and I'm not. It's a constant daily, weekly, monthly. Okay. The next twenty four hours, what has god asked me to do? I'm a show up and do that to the best of my abilities, and I'm gonna leave the outcome to him. My goodness. That's one of the best answers we've had on the show. That was such by the way, that model earlier too that you said about saying no to things, I'm just reflecting on things you're saying, and that it opens up other yeses. That's a faith thing as well. It is a faith that god's gonna open up these other doors as you let other people walk through the ones that it's their time to walk through. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that when we don't have margin 00:10:28.795 --> 00:10:31.515 What's margin mean? I know what it means, but explain yeah. 00:10:31.915 --> 00:10:32.955 Blank space. 00:10:33.435 --> 00:10:42.470 The blank space on my calendar is not a threat to me. I'm not afraid of it. I look at that blank space on Saturday, on a Sunday, on a Monday, on a Tuesday. 00:10:42.870 --> 00:11:02.665 And what that means is I can take a walk without the pressure of I've gotta hurry up and catch a flight. I gotta hurry. The pressure of another important thing on my calendar, That margin allows me to take the walk, to have the conversation with my husband, to write without interruption because I can just spend the four hours writing or studying 00:11:02.825 --> 00:11:17.370 or baking the bread for my family or doing a thing because there's space there to do it without my mental, uh, real estate being taken up with the pressure of something that actually I have to go do as well. Yeah. That margin becomes an invitation 00:11:17.690 --> 00:11:29.395 not only to enjoy the regular rhythms of life, but also the surprises that I feel like we work ourselves out of that God wants to give us. But we don't even have enough resource 00:11:29.635 --> 00:11:32.115 of time, of patience, of energy, 00:11:32.750 --> 00:11:36.990 of, um, wisdom or insight. We're so tapped out all the time 00:11:37.310 --> 00:11:42.830 that we don't have an overflow to engage the stranger who stops us in the line at Starbucks 00:11:42.910 --> 00:11:54.685 and, you know, strikes up a conversation instead of being annoyed at that person. Now I have a little bit of margin to smile back Mhmm. And have a little three minute conversation because all my space isn't crowded. 00:11:55.085 --> 00:11:56.445 And that conversation, 00:11:56.685 --> 00:12:08.700 hopefully, is not only a blessing to them, but it becomes a blessing to me. Like, God surprises me. Oh my goodness. I'm so glad I had this moment of margin to interact with this person. And now this what could have been an interruption 00:12:09.180 --> 00:12:12.060 is an invitation and a divine 00:12:12.300 --> 00:12:13.340 moment 00:12:13.735 --> 00:12:21.095 that I can enjoy. That's tremendous. So I've just enjoyed those pockets of margin. God kinda fills them in with little winks from heaven. 00:12:21.815 --> 00:12:22.615 Wow. 00:12:22.695 --> 00:12:31.790 I was I I didn't know we were gonna go here. And what I was just thinking when you were talking, so help me go one more layer on it. It almost sounds like there's a a life rhythm 00:12:32.510 --> 00:12:47.355 to your existence, and that's why you're fully you could be fully present. I was just thinking, in other areas, like, you're an athlete, rhythm matters. Right? If you're enjoying a party or a dance or prayer or whatever, there's a rhythm. There's a pace. There's a cadence to it. 00:12:47.835 --> 00:12:53.755 I almost feel like in our culture today with social media and speed and the news and who did this and we're the that we've lost 00:12:54.075 --> 00:13:02.100 the desire or even the the consciousness of being in a rhythm in our lives, of having some pace and rhythm and cadence to our existence. 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:07.300 Does that sound right? I I agree with you, and it's being controlled by a 00:13:07.745 --> 00:13:26.830 rhythm we're watching in other people's lives that's perceived. It's created. It's filtered. So it looks like the rhythm of their life is that way or the cadence of their life is that way. But we're just seeing their highlights. We're just seeing the bits and pieces they give us. Right. And then we're trying to keep up with it and model ourselves after it. And we don't know the cost. 00:13:27.470 --> 00:13:45.335 We don't know the price they're paying. We don't know the lack of peace they have or the lack of sleep they have. We don't know what their family life is like. Yeah. But we're trying to match it, and it's costing us in ways that we have never anticipated. Now it's your it's your podcast, but I have to ask you about the exact same thing. Mhmm. Because I look at your world and your life and how 00:13:46.455 --> 00:13:55.760 engaged you are with people and how much you're doing, and I wonder about that for you. How do you manage sort of the rhythm of your life? That's such a great question. I I've learned a little bit 00:13:56.640 --> 00:14:10.175 of another level of it just sitting here with you. Because by the way, it's actually true what you've said. Like, we've even talked about doing the show for many many months and Yeah. Finally, the time was right and I really admire that about you. I think part of what you said earlier for me has been age. 00:14:10.575 --> 00:14:11.775 Yeah. And also, 00:14:12.175 --> 00:14:17.055 it'd be cool for two people that have had the blessing of some achievement to share this. In all honesty, 00:14:18.740 --> 00:14:27.540 I audit my dreams now. Things that mattered to me at 25 or 35, which was just that season of my life, which is healthy at that season of my life, 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:44.175 no longer are as important to me. And so I'm I'm sort of regularly prayerfully asking for guidance and a little bit of auditing of what is important to me now at 55 as opposed to at 25 or 35. And I think I've done a better job of choosing things that 00:14:44.690 --> 00:14:47.250 I just had a conversation this morning, ironically. 00:14:47.410 --> 00:14:53.010 Very well known person in the personal development space. One of my dearest friends, she called me this morning in kind of a 00:14:53.490 --> 00:15:01.685 got feeling great mode. It was actually I was getting ready for another podcast, and was a little bit late because I we're so deeply engaged in this. And I said to her, 00:15:02.005 --> 00:15:06.725 she's just a little bit like, what should I be doing? I'm not sure. And I said at this stage of my life, 00:15:07.685 --> 00:15:08.325 if I'm 00:15:08.885 --> 00:15:17.320 if if it gives me energy when I do it I'm not saying it's not work. Speaking is work. But if I feel energized, my soul feels fulfilled at this stage, 00:15:17.800 --> 00:15:36.725 I wanna do more of it. But if I'm looking at my calendar and everything on it is I can't wait till that's over Oh. I don't want my calendar to be loaded with that. Now there are certain stages of life, I think you'd agree, where you just have to do difficult things. You do the thing that's next. You do the thing that's next. That's right. But in between those gaps or that margin that you said, I have given myself more space. 00:15:37.125 --> 00:15:48.340 I have played a little bit more golf. I am I I pray more times a day now and more engaged in my conversation with god than I've ever been. It's not like, oh, it's 09:30. I'm gonna hit my knees and say my prayers now. It's 00:15:48.580 --> 00:16:04.355 all the time or any time. The day. Yeah. So that's changed things for me, and I think it's made me lighter. I don't think I'm quite as I think my tendency like, you don't have I think I'm a I can be heavy. You know what mean? Like, I can be wound up and heavy. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm an intense guy. Who? You? 00:16:05.315 --> 00:16:11.955 What? I know I know. And I'm just I'm a little lighter. It's a little lighter to be around me. By the way, how do you do this? This 00:16:12.035 --> 00:16:16.710 is what I the this I'm referring to. You have an anointing to communicate. 00:16:17.350 --> 00:16:21.350 Is it just an anointing or have you worked at it? Like, you're an incredible actress. 00:16:21.670 --> 00:16:23.990 You also have this form of expression of writing 00:16:24.230 --> 00:16:25.350 that you've been great at, 00:16:26.265 --> 00:16:28.105 and you are electric 00:16:28.105 --> 00:16:28.985 on stage. 00:16:29.385 --> 00:16:44.420 I mean, you are clearly That means a lot coming from you. Thank you. By the way, and I'm and I mean that. And I am a little bit of I think my ability to compliment people on speaking is I I really am sort of scrutinizing on that. It's a crap. You are unbelievable. 00:16:44.420 --> 00:16:52.020 Wow. Okay. Truly remarkable. And even in this environment, have you worked on this? Is this an anointing? Did you pick it up from dad? Like, what is that? 00:16:52.820 --> 00:16:58.035 I did not realize that first of all, thank you. But I didn't realize until later in life 00:16:58.515 --> 00:17:02.435 that my whole upbringing, I was in a master class for communications. 00:17:02.435 --> 00:17:04.915 Mhmm. It it is what it is. I 00:17:05.235 --> 00:17:06.195 my dad 00:17:06.275 --> 00:17:09.155 has been my pastor since I was one year old. 00:17:10.100 --> 00:17:11.540 Every Sunday, 00:17:11.540 --> 00:17:12.260 pretty much, 00:17:12.900 --> 00:17:16.100 for my entire life, I have watched Tony Evans preach. 00:17:16.580 --> 00:17:19.700 He is a master orator. Mhmm. Clearly, 00:17:19.700 --> 00:17:25.945 he is a preacher, so he's preaching the bible. But even if he wasn't, his ability to tie illustrations 00:17:25.945 --> 00:17:26.985 to principle, 00:17:27.225 --> 00:17:41.260 his ability to make sure the message is concise and clear, because sometimes as communicators, the hardest thing is to cut out all the extraneous things that might be great points, but they're not the point. Mhmm. And then your audience being able to take away the one thing you were saying, 00:17:41.580 --> 00:17:52.860 that's hard. I watched dad do that every week. Mhmm. So the reality is just the craft of communicating. Mhmm. I didn't realize I was absorbing that. I thought everybody spoke like that. 00:17:54.465 --> 00:17:57.345 And because of who also dad was around, 00:17:57.745 --> 00:18:02.225 um, my early years, I was around Zig Ziglar. Wow. 00:18:02.225 --> 00:18:26.425 I just was with him. He was like a grandfather. I was just around him at events and sitting next to him and talking to him and watching him speak. Wow. I was around Anne Graham Lotz, who's one of Billy Graham's daughters, and, oh my gosh, I was just watching her like, you gotta be kidding me. Mhmm. You know? So there were people that I was just around, and I was watching the craft that I did not know in those years I would be a communicator for a living in this way. I didn't know that or for a ministry. 00:18:26.825 --> 00:18:27.385 So, 00:18:27.785 --> 00:18:46.770 um, in hindsight, I realized it wasn't something that I was actively practicing. I was just absorbing. And then, obviously, through the years, when you're doing a thing you know, I look back on some of my writing from, you know, twenty years ago, and you look back at some of that, you're like, lord, have mercy. Told you. What in the world? Every league. Who was reading this? You know? So 00:18:46.770 --> 00:18:48.690 it's just in the doing of a thing. 00:18:50.675 --> 00:18:53.235 I do think, and I'm grateful for this, 00:18:53.555 --> 00:18:54.835 that I wasn't 00:18:55.635 --> 00:18:56.755 so timid 00:18:56.755 --> 00:19:00.515 even though I knew my limitations that I wouldn't just do it anyway. 00:19:01.475 --> 00:19:01.875 Meaning, 00:19:02.530 --> 00:19:08.530 sometimes when we know our weakness, we know we're not that great of a thing, it keeps you from even trying. 00:19:08.690 --> 00:19:20.905 Mhmm. And whenever I would be in that moment where I'm like, uh-uh, I'm not gonna speak because I'm not good enough, or I'm not gonna write because I can't, There would be some voice of encouragement saying, just do it. Just put the words down as you can. And 00:19:21.145 --> 00:19:22.745 in exercising that, 00:19:23.065 --> 00:19:38.870 you don't know that you're building one layer on top of another, and there's maturity coming as you're going. So I am grateful that was just doing it all along even though I look back and go, man, that was terrible. That was a terrible paragraph I wrote in that book. But it's all exercise. 00:19:38.950 --> 00:19:48.765 Mhmm. And you're building maturity and excellence as you go. It's so funny you say that I just redid the audio version of one of my books, and I'm like, oh my gosh. This is so bad. 00:19:49.165 --> 00:19:51.005 So It's just like 00:19:51.165 --> 00:20:04.070 crippling when you look back on it. You know? But what I did learn, I just wanna reinforce a principle for people that are listening is that maybe you're not a stage speaker. Maybe you're a salesperson. Yeah. Heck. Maybe you're just a mom or a dad. What you said about editing and cutting it down to fewer words, 00:20:04.630 --> 00:20:05.590 I gotta tell you, 00:20:05.910 --> 00:20:32.360 my biggest blessing was I was a broadcast major in college. It's ironic that you were too? Yeah. Okay. There's success leaves clues. Right? And And so I didn't come back to doing it. I didn't know there was pod when I was in college, there were no podcasts. I never knew I would even use it. Right? But what you learn in broadcasting is to say something most people say in more words and fewer because you gotta get it into bites. And so I learned to write and communicate, think that way. You're totally right about that. Mhmm. Less is usually more in your sales presentation. 00:20:32.600 --> 00:20:41.560 Even with your kids, it's usually less is more. So I really, really believe that. Way in most areas of life, even in the most fundamental silly ways like your closet. 00:20:42.295 --> 00:21:14.135 If you have so much stuff in there, this might be a woman's problem. No. It I relate. You got so much stuff in there, you actually end up wearing the same three things over and over because you can't see what's in there. It's all smashed together. It's too complicated. It's overwhelming. You walk in. You're just frustrated, so you just keep picking the same two or three things. Mhmm. You edit that stuff and get it down to some good things that you actually wear, that you like, they fit you now in this season of life, and you space it out. Mhmm. You start enjoying what you have and utilizing what you have more because there's less. Very, 00:21:14.215 --> 00:21:27.280 very well said. Wow. I did that. I did a podcast on it. I did a whole thing on spring cleaning your life, but it started with my own closet. I'm like, I why am I keeping this I haven't worn this shirt in eight years. Like Not eight. Well, 00:21:27.840 --> 00:21:32.160 I'm trying to be polite to myself. I've worn this shirt in twenty eight years. You know? I've 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:40.960 been around a long time, but I I very much agree with that. Sometimes just spring cleaning opens up clarity, and you can see things that you wouldn't see. And by the way, even sometimes, I think you'd agree, 00:21:41.675 --> 00:21:43.435 sometimes even relationships. 00:21:43.675 --> 00:21:45.835 There are certain relationships 00:21:46.235 --> 00:21:50.075 in your life that you know aren't serving you, but you keep them around. 00:21:50.715 --> 00:22:08.190 Because it's comfortable? Yeah. Yeah. Do you agree with that? Oh, absolutely. There's so many things that, again, it's just there, whether it's a person or it's a habit that we've had or it's a, you know, something that's been a part of our life for as long as we can remember. And we haven't taken the time to do what you said earlier, which is just pause and reevaluate. 00:22:08.350 --> 00:22:18.625 Mhmm. We're just comfortable with it, And it's just a part of our daily rhythm we've never thought about. Is it serving me right now? Right. Or am I serving it right now? Am I offering value here? Am I just taking up space? Mhmm. 00:22:20.705 --> 00:22:28.830 One of the things that came to my mind earlier when you said you reevaluated now at this age in your life things that are not as important to you as they were in the twenties and the thirties. 00:22:29.390 --> 00:22:31.870 I was immediately thinking about how 00:22:32.110 --> 00:22:35.630 when you're 20 and you're 30 and you're maybe starting your forties even, 00:22:35.870 --> 00:22:41.885 when you're exercising and trying to eat right, it really is about fitting in them jeans. Like, I'm trying to look a certain way in clothes. When 00:22:42.365 --> 00:22:43.485 you're 45, 00:22:43.485 --> 00:22:59.790 50, and 55, you're still wanting to be active, but my reasoning is different now. Hey, dear. I I'm I don't wanna jog necessarily all the time because of the impact it's having on my knees. Yep. I wanna walk when I'm 60. Mhmm. You know what mean? That's right. I want my my joints to be functional 00:22:59.950 --> 00:23:11.225 Yeah. When I'm 65 and when I'm 70. So I'm altering even the way I exercise and eat based off of the reality of where I am today. If I kept doing the same kind of exercises I did when I was 27, 00:23:11.305 --> 00:23:17.465 it might do more damage now Mhmm. Than help. What a great metaphor. Pausing to reval reevaluate 00:23:18.025 --> 00:23:32.000 is gonna cost us. Yeah. You know the other thing too? By the way, I'm loving this. I love it too. These are great questions. They are. Well, they're right on they're right on time for my life too because I do train very differently now. I'm not trying to get to the beach and you go, 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:57.090 by the way, I did for a long time. Wow. Like, I don't that's okay with me now. I'm trying to blow the shoulder out. I'm trying to be able to throw a baseball to my grandkids someday. Right? That's why I want my shoulders to work. Yeah. I wanna ride a horse, you know, not fall off. But That's right. There's this great I I wanna ask you about this. I was thinking about people I was about to interview when I watched this clip, and you came to my mind. And it's not a faith thing. It's ironic. Although I when I see faith things, I think of you a lot, 00:23:57.570 --> 00:24:04.370 um, because your speaking is so incredible and has had an impact on me watching it. Truly. Truly. Glad. Truly. Um, 00:24:04.690 --> 00:24:25.200 so there's this new show Taylor Sheridan wrote called the Madison. I think I'm saying it right. Have you heard about this? I have only yes. I've seen a little clip of it. I haven't watched it yet, but it looks who is who is it? Kurt Russell and Michelle Pfeiffer. Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah. That's the It's really well done. I enjoy great. And at least so far. And, um, but there's this scene, and I'll mess it up, but I wanna mention it to you and get your perspective on it. There's a scene, 00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:30.960 and it's I won't say what happens on the show, but it's Kurt Russell, and he's on this, like, porch with his brother. 00:24:31.520 --> 00:24:35.765 And you could tell they're very close, and they're in a rocking chair. It's just this beautiful scene. 00:24:36.005 --> 00:24:42.645 And they're talking about life, and I'm paraphrasing here, but Kurt Russell just he says, we were just on vacation in The Caribbean somewhere. 00:24:42.805 --> 00:24:44.005 And he goes, you know, 00:24:44.485 --> 00:24:49.685 I watch these people. I'm about fifteen years younger than them, and I watch these people. They're on the beach from my balcony, 00:24:50.540 --> 00:24:51.100 and 00:24:51.500 --> 00:24:54.300 they work their entire life to get to one moment, 00:24:54.780 --> 00:24:55.980 which was this moment. 00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:03.180 And they can't do anything about it because they're they're beat up. They're too old. They sacrificed their entire life 00:25:03.665 --> 00:25:07.425 for a moment was to get to the metaphorical beach of life. 00:25:07.985 --> 00:25:13.585 And by the time they got there, it was too late to enjoy it. And these are the people that got there. Right? 00:25:13.745 --> 00:25:20.050 And he said, then I watched him at the restaurant that night, and it was their dream. Someday, I'm gonna and I feel like 00:25:20.530 --> 00:25:25.410 it really made me step back and think at my age too, but I think at any age, this serves somebody. 00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:29.330 Delaying your peace or delaying your happiness 00:25:29.330 --> 00:25:35.535 for a moment of achievement. And this is you know, we're talking to a woman here who said just such success and so many achievements. 00:25:36.095 --> 00:25:40.895 But what would you speak into somebody's life about that? Because I feel like most people are like, I'm gonna be happy 00:25:41.375 --> 00:25:50.360 when I get to that beach, when I get that house paid off or get out of that car or that relationship or that. And a lot of times by the time you get there, 00:25:50.840 --> 00:25:52.280 it's no longer the time. 00:25:52.760 --> 00:25:54.840 Right? I'm wondering what you think about that. 00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:05.295 Man, about a a trillion thoughts just went through my head. I think I would tell my younger self Yeah. This is it. You're in it. 00:26:05.855 --> 00:26:07.295 If you will milk 00:26:07.375 --> 00:26:10.895 and enjoy and treasure and take the opportunity 00:26:11.295 --> 00:26:14.415 to really engage with the people that are in this season, 00:26:14.655 --> 00:26:15.935 build the relationships, 00:26:15.935 --> 00:26:16.655 build the bridges, 00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.050 learn the skill, watch, absorb. 00:26:20.290 --> 00:26:25.170 You don't even know that the key for what you need in the next season is in your current season. I 00:26:25.650 --> 00:26:29.970 would tell my young 20 year old self, girl, this is it. Enjoy this part of the journey. 00:26:30.625 --> 00:26:43.905 Single. Enjoy being single. Because when you're married, then you're gonna think, I want I want the kids. Then you're gonna have the kids, and you're gonna think when they go to college, there's always this next piece. But what you need for the next piece is in the piece you're in. 00:26:44.785 --> 00:26:51.480 And and if you miss it, you'll look back on the season. There were a couple times in my life where I looked back on a season, 00:26:52.360 --> 00:26:58.760 you know, the winds of change blew and blew me out of a season just like that. Mhmm. And then I looked back and went, oh my goodness. 00:26:59.325 --> 00:27:05.965 There were treasures I missed. There were lessons I didn't gain. There was character I didn't build. There were relationships 00:27:06.605 --> 00:27:11.805 within which there was opportunity because your resources are in your relationships. If 00:27:12.605 --> 00:27:24.130 you don't garner and foster and cultivate those relationships while you're there, you don't even know you have just demolished a bridge that was a part of what would take you to the next level of opportunity or, 00:27:24.290 --> 00:27:30.565 um, invitation that you had for the next elevation point in your life. So I would tell myself, 00:27:30.725 --> 00:27:31.845 you're in it. 00:27:32.405 --> 00:27:38.565 Milk it. Enjoy it and get everything out of it and give everything to it that God has put you here for. 00:27:39.605 --> 00:27:41.445 I feel like there's a little bit of, like, a 00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:53.760 like, a blessing over our conversation right now. So I don't usually do this on the podcast. Go back. Usually, I'm just asking questions. But I wanna share something with you about what you just said. A few weeks ago, I spoke at an event. 00:27:54.160 --> 00:28:01.785 And, uh, like you, I speak, you know, quite a bit. And there was a q and a in this little boardroom with, like, their VIPs, 00:28:01.785 --> 00:28:19.640 and the founder of the event was there. I won't say his name, but I was really impressed with this man at the event. I actually when I got back, I said to my wife, I said, this guy's got his act together. He just liked him. He loved the lord, seemed to have a good family life. In fact, after the event, he was supposed to go fly fishing with his son. Anyway, there was a young man in the 00:28:20.600 --> 00:28:21.320 room, 00:28:21.800 --> 00:28:25.000 and he asked a question, what advice would you give your younger self? 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.400 And my advice was very similar to what you just said. 00:28:28.055 --> 00:28:46.160 I said you're as young and as focused as you'll ever be in your life. This is the time. This is it. This is the time. And I said, I promise you ten years from now, you're gonna realize that was the time even though then that will be the time. That's right. Right? That's right. And I had that conversation with him, and I felt good about my answer. You know what I'm saying? I felt like that's really what I think. 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.080 In any event, I found out this week that 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:54.080 that man that was running that event with his son 00:28:54.975 --> 00:28:56.975 just recently died in a plane crash, 00:28:57.295 --> 00:28:58.335 the two of them. 00:28:58.895 --> 00:29:08.895 Yeah. They were killed in a plane crash. And I tell you that Ed, both of them, the father and son? Yes. Yes. Oh, man. And a nephew. Oh, man. And but I say that 00:29:10.370 --> 00:29:20.530 to just a second what you said. Like, I had no idea how sort of prophetic that message was to that young man. It truly was the moment. And I'm not suggesting that that's because we're all gonna die prematurely. 00:29:20.610 --> 00:29:47.670 But like We will someday. Imagine if right. And imagine if we all kick our bliss down the road until some future date. Because at some point, you are going to not be here anymore. And so waiting around for the perfect conditions or the moment to give yourself the gift god would love you to have right now, which is just some peace in your life Yeah. Some bliss is not worth waiting for. So when you were talking, I was getting a little emotional there because I was thinking of that young man and his dad Yeah. At the event. Isn't that remarkable? It is remarkable. 00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:48.230 Mhmm. 00:29:48.790 --> 00:29:49.430 And, 00:29:50.230 --> 00:29:52.870 you know, my mom is in heaven now. She 00:29:53.385 --> 00:30:04.025 graduated to heaven when she turned 70. It was twenty days after she turned 70. Pretty young. Healthy her whole life. And then all of a sudden, just a cancer diagnosis that we had nine months with her, she was gone. 00:30:04.745 --> 00:30:07.850 She wanted to go to Australia her whole life. Mhmm. 00:30:08.010 --> 00:30:10.890 My dad and and and mom had it planned 00:30:11.610 --> 00:30:13.770 for two months after she was gone. 00:30:14.330 --> 00:30:24.325 I think that's a tender spot for my dad to this day. Mhmm. Because they planned to do it, but they were waiting till they were 70. Oh my goodness. So to your point, 00:30:25.125 --> 00:30:34.165 there are some things you don't need to be doing when you're younger because you don't need to be spending the money on it, the time on it. You gotta be wise. Yep. But there are some things we're waiting on this 00:30:34.360 --> 00:30:35.400 romanticized, 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.480 idealized version of what life will be 00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:38.840 when. 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.040 And the reality is you don't know what life will be then. You 00:30:42.120 --> 00:30:45.000 think you know, and you can plan accordingly. 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:52.485 However, there are some things you need to fully engage and invest in right now Yeah. In the season of life god has given you because 00:30:52.885 --> 00:30:58.485 we don't know. Yeah. We don't know. Yeah. So good. Yeah. Bless your dad. I I 00:30:58.885 --> 00:31:25.595 I imagine he has very few regrets, by the way. So He's a he was a good dad, Is a good dad. Grandfather and now great grandfather. So we're blessed. So many of you have asked how to see me speak live. And for the first time ever, you can come see me speak live in person. All of my speeches have been private events, but now I'm teaming up with LifeSearch speaking all over the country. LifeSearch is a one day faith based event where you'll walk in hungry for success, and you'll leave ready to build your resources to leave an impact on others. 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Well, you're leading me to my next point. We don't have that much time, but I've met one of your sons, JC. Right? JC. Yep. Yeah. Very impressive. 00:32:12.975 --> 00:32:15.775 Thank you. He's a good kid. He is. Yeah. Mature 00:32:16.015 --> 00:32:18.495 Mhmm. Polite, 00:32:18.655 --> 00:32:20.095 uh, very smart. 00:32:20.415 --> 00:32:33.220 But even in the couple times that he's messaged me, there's a He's out here messaging you? Oh, no. My son is messaging at my I've asked him to Oh, we met. No. And and and he Checked on these kids. No. No. No. No. No. I wanted him to, and, um, 00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:42.365 he gets it. There's a rhythm there. You said something with your dad earlier that it was really caught, not taught. Right? Yeah. I'm just wondering as someone who is busy, 00:32:42.765 --> 00:32:50.125 you know, I can I can attest to at least one of your children? There's some good fruit there. Thank you. What would you say to somebody who's 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.960 you know, they're raising a family and pursuing a dream right now and maybe feeling guilt. 00:32:55.040 --> 00:33:01.600 You know? I'm I'm at work too much or I'm here. Or when I'm at home, I feel like I should be at work. Just that whole conversation. 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:02.800 What would you say to them? 00:33:03.705 --> 00:33:15.785 To be as intentional as you can. You you are going to feel that. I mean, you know, anybody who's doing anything, splitting their time in any two important ways or three important ways, you are gonna feel a measure of that Mhmm. Because we're human. 00:33:16.520 --> 00:33:27.560 Be as intentionally as you can about mapping out. But what is the priority here? And let me make sure that I'm giving it as much as I possibly can, in this case, our family. JC called me recently. 00:33:27.800 --> 00:33:28.200 He was 00:33:29.415 --> 00:33:40.455 engaged in a friendship with a young woman that he was considering. Maybe this could be a little bit something more he wasn't sure, but he was having conversations with her. She's very ambitious, very driven by career the 00:33:40.935 --> 00:33:42.455 possibility of her career moving forward. 00:33:43.050 --> 00:33:45.130 And it occurred to him in conversation 00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:48.730 that there was a little bit of difference in the way he saw family 00:33:48.730 --> 00:33:51.770 than she might. So he called me, and he said, mom, 00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:53.770 we were with y'all all the time. 00:33:54.815 --> 00:34:10.900 We traveled with y'all. We homeschooled our boys for a long time so they could travel with us. Mhmm. We were with y'all all the time. We were in the green rooms with you. We were you know, you were at home when we were at home. You know? You were gone some, but it it just felt like y'all were we were with you. Yeah. Was that just because life worked out that way, 00:34:11.380 --> 00:34:13.300 or did you guys intentionally 00:34:13.620 --> 00:34:24.165 make that Great question. How our family yeah. I said, JC, that's a great question. That was a decision your dad and I made. Mhmm. We could have been gone all the time. We decided 00:34:24.245 --> 00:34:26.565 that if you couldn't be with us, we weren't going. 00:34:27.045 --> 00:34:32.405 Mhmm. Mhmm. So did that cost us? Yes. Were there things we had to sacrifice? Yes. Were we exhausted? 00:34:32.485 --> 00:34:39.830 Yes. Yeah. But we just decided. We didn't do it perfectly. Man, there are some things I'd go back and do a little bit differently still to this day, so it's not gonna be right. 00:34:40.630 --> 00:34:53.335 But know it wasn't by mistake. Mhmm. Even your dad being as present in your life as he has been. A lot of young men and young women can't say their dad was around, maybe mom. But dad was busy. Dad was at work. Mhmm. Dad was dad was building a career. 00:34:53.815 --> 00:35:04.010 But the fact that your dad was at all your games and took y'all to practices and was at the dinner table and was a part of y'all's life in that sort of intentional way, you better believe your dad made that decision, 00:35:04.250 --> 00:35:06.490 and it cost him. So 00:35:06.650 --> 00:35:07.530 I appreciated 00:35:07.770 --> 00:35:09.050 Mhmm. That JC, 00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:10.570 it was occurring to him 00:35:10.970 --> 00:35:12.490 that unless you choose 00:35:12.875 --> 00:35:13.915 priorities 00:35:14.155 --> 00:35:16.875 and then mold your life around those priorities, 00:35:16.955 --> 00:35:21.755 those priorities will be watered down. Life will take you in different directions 00:35:22.075 --> 00:35:31.170 just like we have to be intentional about our health. We have to be intentional about making time to read a book for our mental health if we wanna continue to buoy up our education, our inspiration, 00:35:31.570 --> 00:35:36.450 just like you have to be intentional with all those other areas of your life. The reality is when you're raising a family, 00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:40.130 if you are not sort of molding and sacrificing 00:35:40.455 --> 00:35:50.055 to make sure this is the priority, it won't magically be. Yeah. You're gonna have to be intentional about it just like all the areas of of life. But you know what? 00:35:50.455 --> 00:35:55.255 And I'm getting a little long winded. No. You're not. I saw that. My dad and mom did that. 00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:12.575 And now in hindsight, see, when you're grown and you have your own kids, that's when you realize, oh, they didn't really enjoy this all the time. It wasn't natural. They were choosing. Mhmm. So us sitting around the table for dinner, four kids, attitude problems, don't wanna be here, would rather be watching TV, 00:36:12.735 --> 00:36:17.695 mad because the chicken's not cooked right. Right. Mom wasn't, like, just thrilled about that. Sure. 00:36:17.855 --> 00:36:19.935 Right. She just kept doing it anyway 00:36:20.095 --> 00:36:39.510 Yeah. Because it was her priority that we sit around that table. It was the standard. Yeah. She just decided this is what we're gonna do for the culture of our home. Yeah. And so I Wow. Very well said. My goodness. Yeah. So Yeah. Gotta be intentional. That's the bottom line. You one thing about him and you, my favorite people have a a unique quality that I just enjoy their company, 00:36:40.185 --> 00:36:42.105 and that is that they're confident, 00:36:42.585 --> 00:36:43.145 yet 00:36:43.465 --> 00:36:46.345 they toe this line of they also have humility. 00:36:46.585 --> 00:36:48.985 It's a unique nuance in people. 00:36:49.225 --> 00:36:53.945 I I I don't know if you agree, but Yeah. We've both known people that have a ton of confidence 00:36:54.280 --> 00:37:05.080 and lack humility, and they can become pretty difficult to be around. The depth of the relationship doesn't go very deep. And typically, I think without that humility, they think it's them. They don't know where the blessings come from sometimes. 00:37:06.225 --> 00:37:12.465 They end up sort of flaming out or making a mistake or you know? And then we also have friends who have tons of humility 00:37:12.545 --> 00:37:13.825 and no confidence, 00:37:13.985 --> 00:37:17.105 and you're kinda carrying them through life. They end up being 00:37:17.265 --> 00:37:22.570 oh, boy. I just got a text from so and so. Here we go. You know? And so I'm wondering 00:37:22.970 --> 00:37:23.610 if you 00:37:24.490 --> 00:37:30.890 do you do something to cultivate that? Is that your faith life? Like, you do have that, Priscilla. You're confident, but there's a ton of humility there. 00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:38.145 Is that is that a conscious thing? Is that something from your faith? Is that something you intentionally instilled in your children? Because JC has that. 00:37:38.785 --> 00:37:43.185 Gosh. I would say it's a combination of all those things, to be honest, definitely the faith because, 00:37:44.305 --> 00:37:53.010 you know, I I'm just so aware that except for the grace of god. I mean, where would we be if he weren't so kind and gracious and merciful 00:37:53.090 --> 00:38:02.130 to bestow upon us another breath for the next day? You know? I'm aware of the fact that he has been gracious. So I'm constantly aware of that. But 00:38:02.850 --> 00:38:12.335 then I think family humbles you. Yeah. Your your kids are gonna look at you and go, you're not that great. Right. Know I mean? Right. They're gonna, you know, look at the movie and go, that was terrible. You know? 00:38:12.655 --> 00:38:33.365 Do they really? Okay. Or not terrible, but they'll be like, that's alright. I'm fine. You know? Right. Right. So you have people around you that have been in your life Mhmm. Whether it's your family or friends you've had since you're nine. And and that kinda just reminds you we're all we're all out here doing important things. Mine is not more important than their thing even if it's less broad or they have a smaller platform. 00:38:33.445 --> 00:38:36.005 Their thing is just as important as my thing. So 00:38:36.485 --> 00:38:44.405 we're all doing something that matters Mhmm. For the kingdom of God, but also just on earth. Mhmm. We're all impacting people. Mhmm. So I think I'm just around 00:38:45.430 --> 00:38:51.750 people who their presence helps to sober us all up, that we all matter. Also, I've been in settings 00:38:52.950 --> 00:38:54.470 I've been in settings, 00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:55.350 um, 00:38:55.750 --> 00:39:07.345 where I realize how small I am in the bucket in that setting. Because you're you're in this atmosphere where, oh my gosh, that person has 20,000,000 followers Mhmm. On Instagram, or this person over here is 00:39:07.585 --> 00:39:36.395 speaking every weekend to 10,000 peep you know, you're around people who it makes it it gives you some frame of reference. Some perspective. Yes. Yeah. Some perspective. So Mhmm. I'm also grateful for that, that I'm just a small part of a big puzzle. And I think because I happen to be around a bunch of people who are doing great things on whatever level, it's just a reminder that I'm just another person doing hopefully helpful things for other people. The other thing you do really well I got one more question for everybody. I just wanna acknowledge something in you that I've noticed. I just think behind the scenes, people may not know about you. 00:39:36.875 --> 00:39:39.595 You're incredible at making other people feel seen 00:39:39.995 --> 00:39:47.500 Oh. And good about themselves. You're you're intentional about it. That's not just something you do. You you do it very well. You did it the first time you met me. 00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:54.140 I I remember you being so complimentary of me, and you'd saw seen me speak or something. And and that but you do that with everybody. 00:39:54.460 --> 00:40:05.645 And you by the way, that's one hack to being a happier person and more confidence is just believe in other people and love them and express it. Yeah. It's a shortcut. Cool. But it's really it's it's one of your superpowers. 00:40:06.045 --> 00:40:26.835 And I I have to imagine that that's also true in parenting. I do. I just wanna acknowledge that piece of you. Thank you. That's awesome. Thank you very much. I feel encouraged with this podcast. Well, I'm I'm setting you up for a hard question at the end. Okay. Here we go. So here it is. This is an important one, and I wanted to ask you this. I should have asked more people of faith that I admire this question. You're gonna be the first. K. 00:40:28.755 --> 00:40:35.075 Most people watching this, because you're on it, will be believers. Mhmm. They're they're Christians. They're in the church, 00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:40.040 but some aren't. Yeah. And there's a lot of people, you and I both know this, 00:40:40.680 --> 00:40:41.240 that 00:40:42.600 --> 00:40:42.920 some 00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:51.475 I think my friend, Era McManus, says it sometimes with it. Sometimes Christians are the biggest obstacle to Jesus, meaning this Yeah. That there are people that, 00:40:51.955 --> 00:41:02.515 you know, they look at church or people in church or they were wronged by someone who's a believer or whatever. They have this thing like, you know, some of it looks really good, but some of it doesn't look so good to me. 00:41:02.995 --> 00:41:04.115 And but I want 00:41:04.720 --> 00:41:09.920 peace in my life. I want the love of god in my life. I think I hear this whisper where 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.240 I wanna come home. Yeah. You know? They've heard it all their life, yet people 00:41:15.040 --> 00:41:16.480 people oftentimes 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:23.905 can kinda get in the way. Totally. Right? Yeah. And so there may be somebody today that's come to the show that's in my audience or your audience 00:41:24.065 --> 00:41:28.705 that's watching this, and they have that feeling right now. What would you say to them? 00:41:30.145 --> 00:41:30.785 That people 00:41:31.600 --> 00:41:35.680 and just the things of earth will constantly disappoint. 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:42.800 And instead of them turning us off to a relationship with god, they're supposed to be a reminder 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.285 and an agitator 00:41:44.605 --> 00:42:12.470 in knowing that we were made for something different. That's why it bothers us. That's why the hurt we faced by that person, the Christian who was a hypocrite, who didn't have integrity, who said one thing and did another thing, the reason why you have the distaste is because there's something in all of us that knows this is not the way it's supposed to be. So instead of it turning us off to a relationship with God, really let it press you into him. It's it's his invitation. It's an opportunity for you to see that he is not them. 00:42:13.605 --> 00:42:15.525 Heaven is not Earth. 00:42:15.605 --> 00:42:17.205 And you're dissatisfied 00:42:17.205 --> 00:42:20.245 with it because you were made for something more. Wow. 00:42:20.565 --> 00:42:23.205 And he's offering you an opportunity to take that invitation. 00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:40.400 We're made for something different. That's why death stings the way it does. That's why sickness makes us go, man, this is not this is not something a baby passes away. Something about that doesn't work. Divorce, betrayal, it breaks our heart. 00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:45.395 It devastates us. That's why. Because we weren't made for this. So 00:42:45.395 --> 00:42:54.515 let that be the invitation to you, god reaching out his hand saying, come. Come walk with me. There's only one perfect one who ever existed. It's 00:42:54.515 --> 00:43:08.010 not me, not you, not anybody around you. We've put that expectation on them. Mhmm. And that's why it continues to devastate us, but there's only one perfect one. His name is Jesus, and he'll give you the peace you've been looking for. Amen. 00:43:08.490 --> 00:43:11.290 Okay. You slayed that answer, just FYI, and you know you did. 00:43:12.125 --> 00:43:26.445 This was such a good conversation. It was a great conversation. Can can we do this, like, at least every couple years? Man, that would be awesome. This was the best conversation I've had in a while. Same here. Same here. No offense to anybody else. Yeah. I loved this. Okay. You're invited back officially. Thank you. 00:43:27.740 --> 00:43:38.060 You guys, sometimes they say, please share the show, but I'm pretty sure today I don't need to even ask you to do it. So thank you so much for joining us. This was Priscilla Shire, you guys. God bless you. Max out your life.